It's All in the Family: The Elweans and Ingweans - Page 11


© Michael Martinez
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So, if Oropher is another cousin, we either have to introduce a fourth sibling in the second generation (not really a problem, actually) or we have to insist on a four-generation tree leading down to Thingol and the boys. Then there is the unnamed Sindarin lady whom Orodreth married. Adding her to the family of Elwe and Olwe is, in my opinion, a stretch. She came from northern Beleriand, apparently the region of Dorthonion, and must have been the daughter of the chief of the Sindar in that region. Such a leader would have been the Elvish equivalent of a clan-lord, perhaps himself a very ancient Elf or the son of one of the ancient Elves who made the Great Journey. When the Noldor first divided the empty lands of northern Beleriand among themselves, Finrod and his brothers were given the upper Vale of Sirion and Dorthonion. When Thingol gave Nargothrond to Finrod, he moved south and Angrod moved into the Vale of Sirion, leaving Dorthonion to Aegnor. Angrod's wife was Eldalote (Sindarin Edhellos) and their son was Orodreth. Orodreth's children were Gil-galad and Finduilas. Finduilas had golden hair, like her foremother Indis, but Gil-galad does not seem to have been golden-haired or silver-haired. His most famous name, "Gil-galad" (Star-radiance), refers to "his helm and mail, and his shield overlaid with silver and set with a device of white stars, shone from afar like a star in sunlight or moonlight and could be seen by Elvish eyes at a great distance if he stood upon a height."

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10.   Nov 14, 2002 12:45 PM
In response to message posted by Michael_Martinez:
Maybe Celeborn stayed in Middle -earth not only to look after his grandchildren. He might have been the person to "close the door" of the epoch of e ...

-- posted by rishade


9.   Nov 14, 2002 11:49 AM
In response to message posted by Armenelos:

Thanks for the apology. It's okay to quote the first few paragraphs of an article and then ...


-- posted by Michael_Martinez


8.   Nov 13, 2002 11:51 PM
this is a most excellent article. i've read two of yours so far (the other i posted on Tolkien Online without asking, even though I gave you credit, and for which I am very sorry), and I have fully ag ...

-- posted by Armenelos


7.   Jan 10, 2002 10:47 AM
Hmmm, rteed, yes one feels for Elrond, but if we go down that path, what about poor Celebrian? First captured and tortured by orcs and is so traumatized by the events she insists on leaving Middle Ea ...

-- posted by celebrian


6.   Jan 7, 2002 8:26 PM
The information on Celeborn and Elrond's sons during the 4th age is at the end of the Prologue in "The Fellowship of the Ring". Arwen's story and more about her relationship with Aragon can be found ...

-- posted by rteed





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