Who Are The Black Irish?


© Leona MacDonald

This question is asked the most frequently of any of the Irish descended. It's not an easy question to answer because actually nobody really knows the precise answer. Myth, theory and legend are used to define where the term came from.

The term "Black Irish" may refer to a group of Irish on the Island of Montserrat or "Emerald Isle of the Caribbean." The Irish intermarried with Africans and the term may have applied to the descendants. These folks have an Irish Accent and many speak fluent Irish.

It is also used as a "not so nice" term in regards to the Protestant Irish that support or supported Ulster Rule or "Black Ulster". The Catholics in Ireland still currently use this to describe their Protestant Irish "cousins".

Also "Black Irish" is often a term used to describe the dark hair, dark eyes, and the darker skin of certain Irish. According to these folks it's simply a language thing. Merely a way of describing people. For instance "Seán Dubh" or "Black John" just as "Seán Rua" would mean "Red John".

Another tale is genetics. That the Milesian invasions to Ireland produced the "Black Irish" or perhaps just the blow-ins from trading with Spain. However they got there it is a description of those Irish with Spanish blood.

Yet another version says that the children of Tuatha De Danann's daughters are the "Black Irish" because they inter-married with the Milesian's (Spanish) and everyone else has the fairer complexions.

One last version says it's actually a reference of the first inhabitants of Ireland who were supposedly dark haired and small of stature. Everyone else are merely descended from invaders and therefore are not "Real Irish".

I did find one interesting definition. That the "Black Irish" or "Black Dutch" refers to a group of Native American's who passed themselves off as "Black Irish" to avoid being labeled as "Indian". http://rosecity.net/cherokee/blackdutch....

So I suppose you can take your pick of definitions. Use the one you like. :-)

Links:

The Myth of

the Black Irish: Spanish syntagonism and prethetical salvation http://www.darkfiber.com/blackirish/

Ethnicities Question #2 Answer http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/library/ff_et...

How Irish is Montserrat (The Black Irish) http://www.iol.ie/~irishrts/Montserrat.h...

Happy Hunting!

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48.   Jun 4, 2006 8:30 AM
My family lore states adamantly that it comes from the Spanish Armada. They come from County Claire. There is a town there on the coast called Spanish Point. My Mom had jet black hair and blue eyes. A ...

-- posted by AsnRiaders


47.   May 16, 2006 9:35 AM
from the NG web site you can submit you results to another
" familytreedna.com " that's how i did it.
the other thing to remember is; that not only the Spanish Armada but also that Muslim Spain "A ...

-- posted by hakim9


46.   May 13, 2006 6:23 AM
In response to Re: Black Irish posted by hakim9:

i have particpated in the national geographic project. i haven't learned anyt ...


-- posted by mbc1964


45.   Apr 1, 2006 9:15 AM
my fathers mother's side of the family is fully of irish descent. his mother has blonde hair and blue eyes. most of my family as those characteristics. either that or red hair and blue eyes. her husba ...

-- posted by lilith_eve


44.   Mar 29, 2006 3:54 AM
Wow,
I had never heard that the Black eyed Irish where the decendents of Spainish Saliors. What my mother always told me was that the Black eyed irish were the decendents of the 7 kings of Ireland. M ...

-- posted by jmciric





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