The Chris Hall Effect: Non-Industrialism


© Ryan Speck

I do not understand industrial musicians who become successful in the mainstream…

What drives a man to beat the odds, get a record deal, make an album, have it be heard by millions, and then turn his back on everything he came from? The justifications are weak and stupid. And I don’t understand why it keeps happening.

In an interview regarding Ritalin’s album, Ogre once commented that he and Martin Atkins were going to set the coffin of industrial music ablaze. Now, I understand the stresses that the man must be under, being burdened with the scrutiny of millions of Skinny Puppy fans, the legacy of hundreds of copycat musicians, and the pigeon-holing effect that industrial has on every fan and journalist not quite as sharp as your average knife (and there are SO many of them), but statements like this make me irritable. I understand that the man is a father of the genre, that without him many of the conventions (and clichés) of the genre would not exist, but why does he feel it necessary to assume that industrial, being an unchanging ideal, is dead and must be destroyed forever with something new.

Silly Ogre, industrial is far from dead and Ritalin’s album sales weren’t ablaze, much less industrial music’s coffin.

Chris Hall from Stabbing Westward has also added his irksome point in another such interview… And it wouldn’t be so annoying if he weren’t spreading the idea like some sort of rivet-Jehovah’s Witness to all those he comes into contact with…

Let me say that, having met and talked to the man, Jeff Scheel from Gravity Kills is a lovely, talented, and interesting man. He is one of the kindest men a fan has a chance to meet. But he bought it. That infuriates me.

Chris Hall, in conversing with Jeff Scheel, converted him to the ideal that they were not industrial.

What kind of idiot is Chris Hall? Of course he’s an industrial musician… Stabbing Westward is industrial… Or should I say was industrial before Chris got a big head and made albums like “Darkest Days” and their latest self-titled monstrosity. Gravity Kills is industrial. But Hall possesses the complex concept that somehow they would be insulting bands like Skinny Puppy to call themselves industrial… Okay, I’ll admit that some of the more fanatical would say the same thing, but I do not. They are industrial. Ogre is industrial. They can’t escape that fact. But they all keep trying.

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5.   Feb 15, 2005 1:48 AM
Realy now. Think about it, you can have an industrial song thats very similar to any mainstream song including techno, trance, rock, metal, hardcore or anything else. If its industrial you will know b ...

-- posted by djtriptoy


4.   Mar 8, 2003 11:06 AM
In response to message posted by nordic:

Industrial is a hard core, underground genre of music, and is therefore not really pa ...


-- posted by Heavy_artillery


3.   Aug 24, 2002 9:31 PM
why try to classify bands into certain genres? this i believe just stifles thier individuality and creativity. if a certain person wants to sound like FLA and calls it R+B, let them. its thier music. ...

-- posted by theonetheonly


2.   Jul 8, 2001 8:04 PM
In response to message posted by nordic:

Right you are... It's just a bit disappointing to me that musicians so easily blow of ...


-- posted by SSMODK


1.   Jul 8, 2001 9:31 AM
"Industrial" music as you call it encompasses many different musical motifs, from metal, techno, pop and even classical music. It can encompass other valid forms of music as well if allowed to. So i ...

-- posted by nordic





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